eb_retrogession
01-05 02:50 PM
Hi,
This thread (forum as well)seems to be really enthusiatic abt the immigration reforms.
Keep it up! I am a new member to this forum who had been passively following the S1932 disaster on immigration.com forums.
Hopefully things may look better with the new bill sponsored by Arlen Specter.
The bill looks good but how do we know that it is this bill which will be discussed and not the other bills sponsored by senator hagel,mccain etc..
Question is even though this bill seems to be a consolidated effort of all the previous bills how can we be sure if this is the bill which will be discussed as part of immigration reforms in feb?
Also this does not have any clause for applying for I-485 before cut off date?
So the people who benefit through this bill are probably the Masters/Phd who can automatically adjust their status and the people who have not even applied for a GC ( since no labor cert required).
But for people who are stuck at their 1-140 waiting to apply for I-485 the only thing this bill helps is increasing the EB quota.
I am a EB-2 applicant (masters) and would strongly support this bill but i don't see how it helps EB-3 applicants as much unless we have the clause for applying for I-485 before cut off date.
Even though there is a draft available about this bill, what gets included and what does not, is all up for debate yet. So no one really knows how this bill will look like, come Feb. That is why we are in the effort to have as many proosals that benefit us , be included in the bill.
This thread (forum as well)seems to be really enthusiatic abt the immigration reforms.
Keep it up! I am a new member to this forum who had been passively following the S1932 disaster on immigration.com forums.
Hopefully things may look better with the new bill sponsored by Arlen Specter.
The bill looks good but how do we know that it is this bill which will be discussed and not the other bills sponsored by senator hagel,mccain etc..
Question is even though this bill seems to be a consolidated effort of all the previous bills how can we be sure if this is the bill which will be discussed as part of immigration reforms in feb?
Also this does not have any clause for applying for I-485 before cut off date?
So the people who benefit through this bill are probably the Masters/Phd who can automatically adjust their status and the people who have not even applied for a GC ( since no labor cert required).
But for people who are stuck at their 1-140 waiting to apply for I-485 the only thing this bill helps is increasing the EB quota.
I am a EB-2 applicant (masters) and would strongly support this bill but i don't see how it helps EB-3 applicants as much unless we have the clause for applying for I-485 before cut off date.
Even though there is a draft available about this bill, what gets included and what does not, is all up for debate yet. So no one really knows how this bill will look like, come Feb. That is why we are in the effort to have as many proosals that benefit us , be included in the bill.
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unseenguy
06-17 01:29 PM
So attack on L1 is on the way.
What about another plan to attack F1?
You are NOT supposed to have immigration intent when you apply F1. So what about targeting all those F1 now, since it is very obvious that they didnt come here just to study and go back. So lets smoke them out based on their "fraud intentions".
After that lets attack the H1 landers. Many of them landed in H1 with body shoppers, and later changed to some big american company. Lets find some thing or other against these body shoppers, and all those H1 came with these body shoppers should go back (even though they are with some other company).
Ok. what is left.......... lets find out something bad about everybody else, except me.
Ohh... wait a sec..... we were supposed to be "united", by this forum, not "divided".
In that case L1fraud himself could come under radar.
What about another plan to attack F1?
You are NOT supposed to have immigration intent when you apply F1. So what about targeting all those F1 now, since it is very obvious that they didnt come here just to study and go back. So lets smoke them out based on their "fraud intentions".
After that lets attack the H1 landers. Many of them landed in H1 with body shoppers, and later changed to some big american company. Lets find some thing or other against these body shoppers, and all those H1 came with these body shoppers should go back (even though they are with some other company).
Ok. what is left.......... lets find out something bad about everybody else, except me.
Ohh... wait a sec..... we were supposed to be "united", by this forum, not "divided".
In that case L1fraud himself could come under radar.
n2b
08-13 04:58 PM
PD - 10/15/2005
Center - NSC
RD - 7/2/2007
ND - 8/4/2007
Opened SR on 8/3 and InfoPass appointment on 8/9 (useless)
Received SR response on 8/11 saying the application is in review.
Seems like SR works!!! Finally something that works!!!
My only confusion now is my application status - "On August 13, 2010, we mailed you a notice that we had registered this customer's new permanent resident status. Please follow any instructions on the notice. Your new permanent resident card should be mailed within 60 days following this registration or after you complete any ADIT processing referred to in the welcome notice, whichever is later."
I do not know what ADIT means? Did anyone get similar response? What are the next steps from here in your experience? Thank you for the help in advance.
Center - NSC
RD - 7/2/2007
ND - 8/4/2007
Opened SR on 8/3 and InfoPass appointment on 8/9 (useless)
Received SR response on 8/11 saying the application is in review.
Seems like SR works!!! Finally something that works!!!
My only confusion now is my application status - "On August 13, 2010, we mailed you a notice that we had registered this customer's new permanent resident status. Please follow any instructions on the notice. Your new permanent resident card should be mailed within 60 days following this registration or after you complete any ADIT processing referred to in the welcome notice, whichever is later."
I do not know what ADIT means? Did anyone get similar response? What are the next steps from here in your experience? Thank you for the help in advance.
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fatjoe
10-12 01:41 PM
Hi Kewl:
Thanks for you encouraging email. My senator's rep. said that my case was assigned to an IO on Sep 21st. Are you sure that it takes 10-30 days(only) once the app is with an IO? May I know how are you so sure about this? Did any NCS rep tell you this time-frame? I only hope what you said comes true.
Also, I have sent 7001 late last week. Is there a # to contact obmudsman's?
Thanks for you encouraging email. My senator's rep. said that my case was assigned to an IO on Sep 21st. Are you sure that it takes 10-30 days(only) once the app is with an IO? May I know how are you so sure about this? Did any NCS rep tell you this time-frame? I only hope what you said comes true.
Also, I have sent 7001 late last week. Is there a # to contact obmudsman's?
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tikka
06-22 12:25 PM
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=5470
We are running a small funding drive as a gesture of support IV for answering each other's questions in times of need.
If your question is answered by a fellow member, do make a point to contribute some amount. It will help continue this effort.
We understand everyone is busy with I485 filing and have put everything on hold. But we have not put our efforts on hold in the interest of this communty and this cause. Core is working on this issue despite being busy on their own I485 filing.
We are also working with our lobbyists on CIR and as soon as there is an action item we will post it on the forum for all to participate.
At this time, do take out a couple of minutes off your busy schedule with I485 filing and contribute towards Immigrationvoice.
Thanks
We are running a small funding drive as a gesture of support IV for answering each other's questions in times of need.
If your question is answered by a fellow member, do make a point to contribute some amount. It will help continue this effort.
We understand everyone is busy with I485 filing and have put everything on hold. But we have not put our efforts on hold in the interest of this communty and this cause. Core is working on this issue despite being busy on their own I485 filing.
We are also working with our lobbyists on CIR and as soon as there is an action item we will post it on the forum for all to participate.
At this time, do take out a couple of minutes off your busy schedule with I485 filing and contribute towards Immigrationvoice.
Thanks
njboy
10-17 09:58 AM
havent you heard the saying-all publicity is good publicity..? by talking about this racist, all we are doing is generating buzz about his stupid program which goes on and on like a broken record about outsourcing and all that..lets NOT track statements made by him..let him say whatever he wants..he does not have any credibility anyway..like they say-dogs bark while the caravans pass by
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nc14
09-10 08:33 AM
I did my part yesterday and feeling good about it.
Called all the congressmen yesterday.
Come on folks wake up, all our calls can help. Give it a final push. Please call..
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$470 till date.
GO IV GO!!!!!!!!!
I called all of them.
Called all the congressmen yesterday.
Come on folks wake up, all our calls can help. Give it a final push. Please call..
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$470 till date.
GO IV GO!!!!!!!!!
I called all of them.
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angelfire76
11-04 10:34 AM
Good talent is sought after. So if one is really good, multiple companies would want to get them to work for them. That would result in multiple labor petitions.
Good talent also needs to make up its mind as to which company to stick to. The "future job" labor petition is so full of holes that its misused lot more than its used.
Individuals who are scared (company not reputed; they had issues in the past; or any other reason) tend to approach multiple companies and have them file a labor for them as a "backup".
These "backups" are the ones clogging the system right now blocking genuine petitions from getting approved / denied quicker. Otherwise even at the rate at which the DOL works, I would think a decent time for petition approval/denial under PERM would be 8 weeks instead of 16+ weeks right now
Someone gets laid off from their initial sponsoring company finds another sponsor and files a subsequent labor.
This should be a pretty genuine case, which should survive any audit. No worries here.
Good talent also needs to make up its mind as to which company to stick to. The "future job" labor petition is so full of holes that its misused lot more than its used.
Individuals who are scared (company not reputed; they had issues in the past; or any other reason) tend to approach multiple companies and have them file a labor for them as a "backup".
These "backups" are the ones clogging the system right now blocking genuine petitions from getting approved / denied quicker. Otherwise even at the rate at which the DOL works, I would think a decent time for petition approval/denial under PERM would be 8 weeks instead of 16+ weeks right now
Someone gets laid off from their initial sponsoring company finds another sponsor and files a subsequent labor.
This should be a pretty genuine case, which should survive any audit. No worries here.
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GCBy3000
06-18 02:46 PM
Did you check the CP instead of AOS. I dont know the interview date now.
can i get her here on tourist visa and file for I485...my H1B extension is in process. the lawyer said it may take 4 months.. it was filed 15 days ago...
gautam
can i get her here on tourist visa and file for I485...my H1B extension is in process. the lawyer said it may take 4 months.. it was filed 15 days ago...
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PlainSpeak
04-06 08:32 AM
And their news page has also changed to reflect this "modest" movement (previously it stated - "the movement will not be weeks or months but could be years")
On both extremes, it's nothing but just an attempt to generate traffic to the website I guess.
Interesting that he claims - the modest movement will be because of the 7% country cap. In my understanding, it does not apply when spiilover happens (plz correct me if I am wrong)
Yes you are right ..
Country caps are not followed or implemented in spillover visas. Why do you think EB2I moved to May 2006 last year July 2010
On both extremes, it's nothing but just an attempt to generate traffic to the website I guess.
Interesting that he claims - the modest movement will be because of the 7% country cap. In my understanding, it does not apply when spiilover happens (plz correct me if I am wrong)
Yes you are right ..
Country caps are not followed or implemented in spillover visas. Why do you think EB2I moved to May 2006 last year July 2010
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JaiHo
09-24 02:59 PM
I am not considering any spill over etc...
here is what says on visa bulletin
Visa Bulletin October 2009 (http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_4575.html)
The worldwide level for annual employment-based preference immigrants is at least 140,000.
EMPLOYMENT-BASED PREFERENCES
First: Priority Workers: 28.6% of the worldwide employment-based preference level, plus any numbers not required for fourth and fifth preferences.
Second: Members of the Professions Holding Advanced Degrees or Persons of Exceptional Ability: 28.6% of the worldwide employment-based preference level, plus any numbers not required by first preference.
Third: Skilled Workers, Professionals, and Other Workers: 28.6% of the worldwide level, plus any numbers not required by first and second
preferences, not more than 10,000 of which to "Other Workers".
worldwide level = 140000
EB3 = 28.6% of 140000
can you please clarify ?
no...
You are assuming that the spillover from remaining countries in EB3 will be allocated to EB3 I/C/P/M. The spillover rules that changed in 2007 will ensure that those visas will first go to E1 -> EB2 and then fall to us if there is an overflow. Unfortunately that will not happen because there are many retrogressed individuals in EB2 and they will get the visas first.
here is what says on visa bulletin
Visa Bulletin October 2009 (http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_4575.html)
The worldwide level for annual employment-based preference immigrants is at least 140,000.
EMPLOYMENT-BASED PREFERENCES
First: Priority Workers: 28.6% of the worldwide employment-based preference level, plus any numbers not required for fourth and fifth preferences.
Second: Members of the Professions Holding Advanced Degrees or Persons of Exceptional Ability: 28.6% of the worldwide employment-based preference level, plus any numbers not required by first preference.
Third: Skilled Workers, Professionals, and Other Workers: 28.6% of the worldwide level, plus any numbers not required by first and second
preferences, not more than 10,000 of which to "Other Workers".
worldwide level = 140000
EB3 = 28.6% of 140000
can you please clarify ?
no...
You are assuming that the spillover from remaining countries in EB3 will be allocated to EB3 I/C/P/M. The spillover rules that changed in 2007 will ensure that those visas will first go to E1 -> EB2 and then fall to us if there is an overflow. Unfortunately that will not happen because there are many retrogressed individuals in EB2 and they will get the visas first.
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Googler
08-06 04:07 AM
All of this info and more is available in the documents listed in this thread:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11087
All you have to do is read them.:)
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=11087
All you have to do is read them.:)
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wandmaker
01-09 06:39 PM
Now long awaited Feb 08 bulletin is out and the dates are as expected. It is time for all IVans (including guests) to help IV to succeed in the campaign. Focus your energy, spread the word, make others do the same - IV will help us succeed.
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SunnySurya
08-07 02:46 PM
What is being done is simply replacing (or attaching) new I-140 to the exisitng 485. Thus RD of 485 remains intact.
I think IF we stress for FIFO principle then jumping lines , ships will be taken care of by themselves. let RD be used and PD recaPture request date on the letter be RD.
I think IF we stress for FIFO principle then jumping lines , ships will be taken care of by themselves. let RD be used and PD recaPture request date on the letter be RD.
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TeddyKoochu
10-06 11:50 AM
Many Many congratulations SOP, I have been reading and following your case. Your case is one of the best glowing example that persistence to truth always pays, sometimes the path maybe tough but never give up and never say die. All the best to you and your family, must have been a very special feeling that all the effort finally resulted in success.
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Praveen20
09-16 12:00 PM
I guess it is better to call republicans also who are opposing the bill and if possible give them our side of story too. There is no harm in doing that. We may be able to convince one or two members who are opposing it.
Thanks,
Thanks,
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ksrk
09-12 06:41 PM
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Update
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We have learned that in all probability House Judiciary committee will finishing marking up HR5882 in the next committee meeting. The bill is likely to be brought to the House floor the following week. We have been told that if our bill(s) pass the House, Senate will include the language of the bill(s) in another Senate bill that has majority support. We must admit that the time is shot but its still possible.
We request everyone that starting monday, please call all the members of Judiciary committee. Thanks to the members who have already made phone calls to the lawmaker's office. We request you to please call again to show your support starting Monday.
Thanks,
Thanks a lot for the update - this sure is encouraging!
Two quick questions...
1. When is the "next committee meeting" - next week or later?
2. Any changes to the list of members of the Judiciary committee? Better still, it will be great if you could re-post the latest list so we can get going with the fresh wave of phone calls...
Thanks again and let's pull up our socks for the home stretch.
Update
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We have learned that in all probability House Judiciary committee will finishing marking up HR5882 in the next committee meeting. The bill is likely to be brought to the House floor the following week. We have been told that if our bill(s) pass the House, Senate will include the language of the bill(s) in another Senate bill that has majority support. We must admit that the time is shot but its still possible.
We request everyone that starting monday, please call all the members of Judiciary committee. Thanks to the members who have already made phone calls to the lawmaker's office. We request you to please call again to show your support starting Monday.
Thanks,
Thanks a lot for the update - this sure is encouraging!
Two quick questions...
1. When is the "next committee meeting" - next week or later?
2. Any changes to the list of members of the Judiciary committee? Better still, it will be great if you could re-post the latest list so we can get going with the fresh wave of phone calls...
Thanks again and let's pull up our socks for the home stretch.
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mchundi
01-01 01:20 AM
Guys,
Any idea when the new proposals will be implemented if they become law :confused: Do we have to wait until Oct for these new proposals to take effect.
--MC
Any idea when the new proposals will be implemented if they become law :confused: Do we have to wait until Oct for these new proposals to take effect.
--MC
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ganguteli
04-25 04:42 PM
Atleast desi body shoppers does our green cards and also pays unlike TCS, Satyam, infy crap.They bring people on L1 visa and they pay so less and these people on L1 killing oppurtunities for US based people and they take the job to India. H1s are not the problem. L1 are.
For H1s, we need reform and regulation of law
For L1s, stop giving them or enforce the law very strictly. Or else everybody will be jobless
I have seen this in my company, a wireless provider in east coast.They have been eliminating silently all US based resources for the past 1 year and replacing with L1s
Why do I get this feeling that you are an anti-immigrant on this website?
Come clean please.
For H1s, we need reform and regulation of law
For L1s, stop giving them or enforce the law very strictly. Or else everybody will be jobless
I have seen this in my company, a wireless provider in east coast.They have been eliminating silently all US based resources for the past 1 year and replacing with L1s
Why do I get this feeling that you are an anti-immigrant on this website?
Come clean please.
aristotle
06-26 10:22 PM
Can anyone answer this question please?
In I-485, when we enter I-94 information, I am not sure which date to use in the valid field.
The date on my white EAD card expired already. I have a new I-797 which is valid until 2010. My guess is I should enter this date. Can any one please confirm?
Thanks a lot!
In I-485, when we enter I-94 information, I am not sure which date to use in the valid field.
The date on my white EAD card expired already. I have a new I-797 which is valid until 2010. My guess is I should enter this date. Can any one please confirm?
Thanks a lot!
BharatPremi
03-27 12:37 PM
I do understand that without evidence you can't fight the conventional way or file a law suit. It would be difficult, if not impossible. I am not debating that. I never said it would be easy. Even with evidence (in case of Capital One), one can argue if thats a good enough base for fighting and whether it will do any good if the case is won. Thats not the point.
What would you do if a recruiter or employer told you (verbal or writing) that it is their policy not to hire Indians? (I am just using India as an example).
Regardless of written evidence, I would be inclined to do something about it. I am not saying that I will file a law suit. I would probably not even want to work for such an employer. But I will not be speculating that oh, there must be some loophole that allows employers to have such a policy; because many of them are saying that, it must be legal. I will not assume that they can do this under "Hire and fire" authority. We just seem to have a little difference in opinion about that. We agree on pretty much everything else. Thats all. And frankly, its good to have an opposing perspective on things.
Now, if I hear from experts that my understanding of the discrimination laws is incorrect and that it is legal for an employer to say that they will not hire somebody with EAD, I'll just shut up. Until then, I will encourage people not to be quiet and to call the hotline, file a complaint, call the media, and pursue whatever means we have at our disposal to fight what we consider injustice and fight what we believe is discrimination as per the law.
Now, I am with you:)
What would you do if a recruiter or employer told you (verbal or writing) that it is their policy not to hire Indians? (I am just using India as an example).
Regardless of written evidence, I would be inclined to do something about it. I am not saying that I will file a law suit. I would probably not even want to work for such an employer. But I will not be speculating that oh, there must be some loophole that allows employers to have such a policy; because many of them are saying that, it must be legal. I will not assume that they can do this under "Hire and fire" authority. We just seem to have a little difference in opinion about that. We agree on pretty much everything else. Thats all. And frankly, its good to have an opposing perspective on things.
Now, if I hear from experts that my understanding of the discrimination laws is incorrect and that it is legal for an employer to say that they will not hire somebody with EAD, I'll just shut up. Until then, I will encourage people not to be quiet and to call the hotline, file a complaint, call the media, and pursue whatever means we have at our disposal to fight what we consider injustice and fight what we believe is discrimination as per the law.
Now, I am with you:)
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