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  • walking_dude
    12-12 10:52 AM
    I always cleaned my room, in India and here. What's wrong with that? Infosys founder Narayan Murthy cleans his own toilet (as per his own admission to a newspaper). Does it make him an 'inferior' person to you? Don't you vacuum your room every weekend? Does that make you any lesser person? Ever heard of dignity of labor?

    You wrote - "Humans, listen, life is not 1000 years, it is very short, dont waste the best part of your life waiting for gc". So what are you doing ? Not waiting for GC? Then why are you hanging around? There are good opportunities back home . Those sitting in deep-sh*t shouldn't be throwing muck at others stuck in the same sh*t.


    I am sure most of us here (especially from India) were pampered and did not even clean their own study desks or rooms of their house when they were young, now they are ready to sweep the roads of a foreign country to get the foreign government attention to get their gc :)
    Humans, listen, life is not 1000 years, it is very short, dont waste the best part of your life waiting for gc.





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  • mpadapa
    10-05 02:36 PM
    come on folks. This is a great way to meet with fellow IV-ers.
    There is lot of activity happening as a result on the rally, U might be fortunate to hear about them during the meet:D





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  • indianabacklog
    06-18 02:02 PM
    If you have plans to travel...could you go to the local INS office and get the AP??.AP is very important too if you are travelling


    Simple answer is NO. The local offices do not have this authority. Just have to wait for the USCIS wheels to move along at their own pace before you can travel.





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  • seekerofpeace
    04-14 08:32 PM
    In the state of Mass delivery is covered by the State provided you show you don't have insurance. Millions of single moms are delivering and many are teenagers and many are w/o any insurance. Delivery is considered an emergency and you will be covered. Keep your spirits up and bear the storm.....it always gets darkest before you see light again.

    All the best

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  • bkam
    05-11 12:09 PM
    ...So everythings gonna be OK. Lets go party. Just leave money for the plane tickets.
    Guys, why don't we open a page "Bets" ? There we can place bets if a bill will pass, if our ammendments will be included, if something at all will happen... This will make our life more interesting and we will be in a better mood. To wait for another 5-6 years for the GC :-)

    Long Live USCIS "Las Vegas" establishment :-)





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  • senthil1
    05-24 03:38 PM
    Also we cannot deny that Corporations also reason for putting the h1b restrictions. Why Indian consulting companies applying thousands of H1b in one day? I doubt usage of number h1bs are atleast 50% They were also wasting lot of h1bs just by applying and staying in India waiting for Job opportunity materialise but here many companies could not get persons for many projects. Some solution is needed for this issue for proper utilization of H1bs. Corporations could have suggested some solution for this if they are really responsible.

    According to lot of estimates 100k new jobs are created and if we include retiring people and rotating people real new requirement will be 150k persons including H1b and L1. H1b numbers(115-180K) in the Senate bill are fine according to Industry estimates if industry is just using for new jobs and vacancies of old jobs without replacing current workers. It is too much restrictive in the bill but someone has to suggest alternative solution for the current problems. If they just remove the restrictions when they open new H1b cap will be reached within few days again corporations lobby for more H1bs.

    I'm surprised that everybody in this thread got so scared of the language in a stupid bill and stopped thinking how clever Indians are in finding loopholes. I hate when all the extra-ordinary people think in the same direction. To start with, is it possible that these jokers will pass anything agaist the will of big techs like microsoft, intel, csco, think again? even if they did to make average(stupid) Joe happy, they wil keep loopholes making the law irrelevent. e.g. H1 quota limited but L1 unlimited. businesses more than 50 emps can not have more than 50% H1Bs, what do u think big desi consulting cos are in trouble? they will simply 10 more companies each having 49 people.

    Other direction: when i came to US in '99 from SEEPZ, my US salary(in Rupees) was 12 times my indian salary, now it's just 2 times. Indian salaries are increasing 10-20% every year, and Dollar is going down (down 20% in 6 years, 40% including indian inflation), very soon there will be no advantage in coming over here, and you are worrying about future H1s having trouble getting GC?

    No matter how stupid and selfish politician look/sound they always think about their contries future, and folks these are US politicians. take it easy and take a walk outside, it's nice out there.



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  • floridasun
    01-01 07:17 PM
    The price of GC is what you assign to it. The value of GC is not what other people tell you it is. If you get depressed, make your life hell - it's because you chose it. My PD is 2010 in EB2 and I came here in 2004. I know what I'm getting into and it's my decision so I won't fret about it or get depressed. GC is just a document, it should not define you or your life.

    Enjoy time with your Family, wife, kids - it's priceless.....a new sports car will also help. Life is a great gift and will have ups and downs....don't let GC define who you are. I rejected filing in EB3 3 years back with a big 4 consulting firm and changed jobs. I also feel this "promotion" thing but I chose to be in that position. My friends in India are all PM's and Sr PM's.....they got what they chose.

    Life is decided by the choices we make, not GC. GC is just a document. Enjoy and celebrate life.

    My dear Mr. smuggymba -
    for your kind information, sorry for starting rats comparison here but I came to US about half a dozen years before you. my priority date is 2006 and EB3. also I recognize that there are ppl out there who came earlier than me too. Its very easy to preach 'Life is decided by choices we make', 'your luck/fate, success is decided by your own effort, talent', 'if you have it, ppl will notice it and you will succeed' etc. when you spend the most energetic, productive part of your life in a country, you would expect that country reward you with atleast opportunities to prove your mettle. not to say its immensely painful when ppl who came years and years after you get GC and grow leaps and bounds right in front of your eyes.
    P.S. I am not questioning your qualifications or anything.





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  • Imigrait
    07-31 12:42 AM
    Forget September, can any member say with confidence that dates for October will move forward at least 3 years for each category compared to August Bulletin?:rolleyes:



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  • hebbar77
    05-02 12:36 AM
    hahaha...good one belmont boy

    Yes my note was for humor.
    But to answer questions :

    out of all useful land , I guess africa has lots of uninhabited land!, so someone would not mind selling! Its not to offend anyone. I have great respect for africans, being aware that we come from them!
    Me being an indian upper class guy, and this OBC thing going on back home, I dont think I belong to that country that much, where me/my children will be discreminated against!!!
    So dont you guys now think we need our OWN country???





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  • paskal
    12-17 09:46 AM
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  • chaanakya
    08-24 12:59 PM
    The AP is truly an amazing conundrum. I will try to clarify.

    1. When AP is filed, you need to be in the US. No if's and but's about that.
    2. If AP is used at the border for entry, it DOES NOT invalidate your H1. Only using EAD to switch jobs does that.
    3. Lets assume you have an AP valid till Jan 1. You apply for new AP on Oct 1. However, you need to travel on Dec 25. Now there are two scenarios:
    3a) you return on Dec 30 - you can use your old AP as it is still valid. The fact that you have applied for a new AP and left the country DOES NOT abandon your new AP because your old AP is still valid.
    3b) You return on Jan 3 - You need to have the new AP in hand.

    If there are any more questions on AP, please feel free to PM me :)

    Thanks





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  • casinoroyale
    07-01 05:45 PM
    1) what is the best way to attach photos when sending supporting docs so that they won't get lost or mis-placed. What goodies are avaialble in Staples for this?

    2) As part of AP e-file process, is it possible to do all the work on a machine which does not have printer and later retrieve the confirmation notice and print it?



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  • AZ_GC
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  • GooblyWoobly
    09-12 11:53 PM
    easy my friend...easy,....breathe.

    yes, retrogression will remain the same for indians and chinese.....its already pretty bad for the indians. retrogression will hit ROW harder as they are current right now....atleast for EB2. let feb or march 2008 roll around then its going to get worse.

    you dont have to get upset....just sit tight and watch the drama unfold.

    otherwise you're welcome to fool yourself.

    And, would you mind explaining why would ROW get affected? If they were current all along, all the ROW candidates must have already filed, even before july fiasco, right? So, just exactly how do they get affected?

    Sorry for the outburst, but I sometimes get tired of people just throwing out speculations :eek: as if they are stating facts. So, back up your statement with logic.



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  • makemygc
    07-06 11:30 AM
    Guys,

    Here are my thoughts:
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    There are Four group of people (Became current with July bulletin) who are affected and suffered.

    1) The people whose applications reached to USCIS before 10:00 AM
    07/02/07, i.e. before USCIS's new revision/update.

    Note: Legally this group is the SAFEST one as their file reached to the
    USCIS table on time while USCIS's first bulletin was in effect. Their
    case is strong as far as "Law and Justice" is concerned.

    2) The people whose applications reached on 07/02/07 but after USCIS's
    declaration of new revision.

    Note: This group can be fit in a category "Who did not receive ample
    notice from USCIS for its intention to change the bulletin. And so
    may be considered "Probable beneficiaries" by the judiciary

    3) The people whose applications reached or will reach to USCIS from any
    time between 12:00 AM 07/03/07 to 11:59 PM 07/31/07.

    Note: This group will have a "Strongest" weak argument and case. Their
    act of sending files perhaps may not be considered "Law-abiding" as
    they have already received ample notice from USCIS and clear
    statement of USCIS about "Rejecting applications upon receiving"
    then also this group sent the applications.

    4) The People who will not send applications at all with respect to the
    USCIS's revision.

    Note: In my oinion and mostly I believe in Judiciary's opinion thsi group will
    be considered "Law-abiding" and who acted as per USCIS's
    instruction within the periphery of respecting legal authority.

    Now other points to be noted are as under:
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    DOS and USCIS screwed up? Yes... Did not happen ever and now it happened , yes.. People suffered stress..expenses.. yes. Now what we must stress on is one time bulletin per month is a tradition and it is a long time tradition but probably DOS has a power to change that... It seems that there is no such law that DOS can not do that so there exactly Lawsuite filer may have a week case. Nos USCIS is supposed to follow DOS and make bulletin as per DOS's guideline and that is what USCIS did so where is the "Law-Breaking" ? USCIS acted perfectly in legal manner. Probably if Lawsuite filer decide to file the lawsuite on the basis of "Why the helll USCIS decalred "All Current" at the first place" then there they have a chance to make a case strong but if they go another route like "Why USCIS revised the bulletin" then I personally do not see "much worth".

    Now having said this, to me it looks like whether you file till in July or not OR whether you become plantiff or not, it should not matter. AILF and/or any other organization ethically and perhaps legally can not define "Class" narrowly to the limited group of people. If real justice is prevalent in this country judiciary should not allow any entity to define "Class" narrowly. To me "ALL affected" is the "Class" and if judiciary is considering it as a "class action" then it should consider "All affected" as a class. Now US justice system would go this way, I do not know but if it is not going that way then I would consider that as abig black loop hole in justice system itself. My guess is that if AILF would go defining "Class" narrowly, there will be some mechanism by which individually or with group you should be able to challenge that legally as well.

    Now Judiciary, in my opinion may not take stand that ok this is a "Class lawsuite" and now Mr.X has become the plantiff so he would only be the beneficary if lawsuite is won. Either ALL affected should be considered for whatever the benefits come out ot everbody looses it. Same argument goes for people who are not filing. By not filing they are obeying the leagl instruction of government department of USA and for that they should not be punished and can not be punished by not granting any benefit to them whereas granting the benefits to the people who clearly challenged USCIS's revision by filing from 07/03 and onwards....

    If USCIS is smart, it should accept all files now and create the process to have them rotted in the queue for years and that way it will be able save it face and limit on visa numbers wil automatically send whole bunch of files for eating the dust for years.

    I personally see our strong point only at have reimbursement of the money and time if "We are not getting current before one year (Validity of Medicals)

    Any thoughts?

    How do you define "All effected"?





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  • svr_76
    04-07 02:29 PM
    They will retrogress all categories for India/China to 2001, so everyone will have to wait. Eventually people will fedup and leave the country (this solves half of their problem). For others they will keep issueing RFE for the next 5/10 years and enforcing stricter followup on AC-21 so people wont be able to leave their jobs and get promoted.

    So who will want to continue working at programmer in their mid50s. Imp question is will there be a job for such candidate...and so they will move back.

    Optimistic or Pessimistic ...any guess in this Guess the movement game is worthless.



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  • vbkris77
    07-02 03:40 PM
    When we are dealing with DOJ, why do we need significant volume ?
    When dealing with representatives ( lawmakers ) we need large volume to make any impact.

    Here we are talking about DOJ, who would make a decision based on the legal validity of our request.

    Please correct me if I am wrong.

    So that we get enough attention... I wrote one awhile back, still no luck.





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  • vivid_bharti
    07-02 10:22 AM
    US does not discriminate on the basis of Race, Caste, Religion though their is no mention of country of birth. But discriminating Green Card quota on basis of somebody's birth may be unconstitutional..If we appeal in the supreme court, the supreme court can ask the congress to ammend the laws...google and see there have been several instances in the history when Supreme Court told the congress to change a illegal law.

    here's the google link of my searches

    Google (http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=supreme+court+ask+congress+unconstitutional&aq=f&oq=can+you+sue+the+federal+congress+%3F&aqi=&aq=&oq=&aqi=&aq=&oq=supreme+court+ask+congress+unconstitutional&aqi=&fp=dMlfxuRvj0I)

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    sravani
    05-13 01:37 PM
    Sorry to hear about such cases. We all have to realize one thing here. The employers need us equally bad as we need them (more often than not, not talking about Indian consultancies here). If ever one encounters such racial discrimination and open abuse at the work place, the best recourse is to file a complaint with the higher ups in the HR, start searching for another employer and ditch the current racist employer at the right moment with an appropriate email sent to everyone detailing why the person is leaving at such an important phase of the product development. Yeah, this might sound un-ethical, but sometimes situations do demand such drastic measures to send the right message. That's when all these racist employers would realize the importance of the person that just left the company. Then they can try to fill in the position with their preferred race qualified person and see how difficult that gets!!

    Better still, please talk to your friends and family in other parts of the US and find the areas in the US that are cosmopolitan and try to move to those places. Yeah that is very difficult in the short-term, but in the long-run, you would have peace of mind and a good quality of life after making such a move. Fortunately, i am in the Bay area and i have rarely encountered such racial prejudices out here. Just my two cents.

    Good luck.

    Thanks for your advise and i agree with your thoughts.

    I thought of leaving this company several times, but I am working in this company for 6 years and the only company I worked after coming to USA. I invested so much for this company, like working beyond work hours, working in the weekends, making up the project deadlines for the incompetitive colleagues etc. etc. and now just waiting for my Green Card. There were so many times I thought if I get my Green Card I am going to leave this moment. Years passing by and with this retrogression thing, there is very little hope of getting it soon...

    The positive thing is, my direct supervisor is very nice and I can voice my opinion and she understands me and completely supports me. I am just praying god that I should keep working for her till I get the GC.





    eb_retrogession
    03-03 09:19 AM
    I just PayPaled $300 yesterday. Please, keep all of us PBEC and DOL victims in mind as well. We need your help!!
    Thanks a ton anaintchev. PBEC and DOL issues are very much part of our efforts, we have several volunteers stuck at that stage.

    Once again, thanks a lot.



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