reddy2cool
09-29 05:00 PM
There are 3 work categories,
at least 3 queues each for three stages.
the first queue had at one time, rir, regular and then bec, perm added to the mix.
EB portings.
07/07 havoc
name check delays.
a single queue at the end.
bottomline, PD monthly graph is arbitrary.
if your PD remains current for at least three months in a row and everything else is clear, there is good chance you are out of the pipeline.
Excellent point. I think it would be almost impossible to predict an exact number since people would be in and out of the line becz of above factors but atleast they should be more reasonable than from all current to all na to 06 to 03....
at least 3 queues each for three stages.
the first queue had at one time, rir, regular and then bec, perm added to the mix.
EB portings.
07/07 havoc
name check delays.
a single queue at the end.
bottomline, PD monthly graph is arbitrary.
if your PD remains current for at least three months in a row and everything else is clear, there is good chance you are out of the pipeline.
Excellent point. I think it would be almost impossible to predict an exact number since people would be in and out of the line becz of above factors but atleast they should be more reasonable than from all current to all na to 06 to 03....
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spdy_mn
06-28 12:59 PM
Does it mean they would stop processing I140 premium applications which have already been sent. My I140 was pending for 6 months and I changed it for premium after the dates became current, it was sent by my lawyer this Monday (25th) and received by USCIS on 26th. Does this mean it will not be processed or does this mean they will not accept any premium processing applications from July 2nd.
Yours will be processed as you have already submitted. You should receive your decision in the next week. When you do, please let us know that it is approved :)
Yours will be processed as you have already submitted. You should receive your decision in the next week. When you do, please let us know that it is approved :)
angelfire76
01-15 02:26 PM
Is it to learn something like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07jnqD8wvyE&feature=related
Once a finger breaks the fight's all out of even the most coked up thug. Of course if there are more than 1...give your wallet and start praying that you don't catch a slug.
It's inevitable with so much unemployment there will be a rise in crime. Best thing to do is to install car security alarms, be wary of strangers and stay away from shady places. Of course can't help if you live in the deep south or the crime ridden NJ area. You are unfortunately a victim of your richer brethren of the same color who like to display wealth in their Mercs/Bimmers/Lexuses and who's women look like jewelry store mannequins (minus the stats of course :p) Sad story, can happen to anybody, anywhere
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07jnqD8wvyE&feature=related
Once a finger breaks the fight's all out of even the most coked up thug. Of course if there are more than 1...give your wallet and start praying that you don't catch a slug.
It's inevitable with so much unemployment there will be a rise in crime. Best thing to do is to install car security alarms, be wary of strangers and stay away from shady places. Of course can't help if you live in the deep south or the crime ridden NJ area. You are unfortunately a victim of your richer brethren of the same color who like to display wealth in their Mercs/Bimmers/Lexuses and who's women look like jewelry store mannequins (minus the stats of course :p) Sad story, can happen to anybody, anywhere
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desi3933
06-18 11:56 AM
The reason the processing dates matter is because by the time USCIS gets to process our I765 and I131 the dates would have retrogressed and then what happens is a million dollar ?
What is your point, Tnite? EAD and AP can filed/issued even if the PD is retrogressed. MY PD was retrogressed after I filed I-485 and EAD and AP were issued?
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Permanent Resident since May 2002
What is your point, Tnite? EAD and AP can filed/issued even if the PD is retrogressed. MY PD was retrogressed after I filed I-485 and EAD and AP were issued?
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Permanent Resident since May 2002
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shana04
02-23 05:16 PM
Hi Shana
If I understand your question correctly, then if you are using H1 then you need to be on payroll all the time. Does not matter whether or not using AC21. This applies even after 180 days of your AOS. If you use EAD then you can be without a job.
Bulls eye. this is what I am thinking.
I am looking for an answer in general for all.
If I understand your question correctly, then if you are using H1 then you need to be on payroll all the time. Does not matter whether or not using AC21. This applies even after 180 days of your AOS. If you use EAD then you can be without a job.
Bulls eye. this is what I am thinking.
I am looking for an answer in general for all.
ivslave
09-11 06:26 PM
Yes.. I own the house since 2003.. Some time love it some time ... don't know..
RV
what you are talking about...... in winter when there a ton of snow on drive way...:D or when your grass grows too fast... :D
RV
what you are talking about...... in winter when there a ton of snow on drive way...:D or when your grass grows too fast... :D
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aknynd
12-11 10:35 PM
How About Sweeping Roads In Nyc ..on Wall Street, In Front Of Nyse And Nasdaq And Also In Ffreont Of All Tv Stations ...will Get Lots Of Media Attention ...
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desi3933
02-02 02:19 PM
Thanks for the reply , let me file the H1 transfer with Employer2 now in "Premium route" with the I-140 approval from Employer1 and see if we get a approval. Once i get a approval , i think stamping it wont be an issue after 7-8 months even thought Employer1 has revoked that I-140 ?
However i want to clear even if the Employer1 revokes this I-140 my PD still remains locked - right ???
This is not clear for retaining a priority date when I-140 is revoked. As per a US CIS memorandum, when I-140 is revoked for misrepresentation or fraud, person won't be able to carry the PD over. On the other hand, there are regulations that state that beneficiary would no longer be able to carry over the priority date in the event of I-140 being revoked.
Please note that the memorandum does not have the force of law.
____________________
Not a legal advice.
US Citizen of Indian Origin
However i want to clear even if the Employer1 revokes this I-140 my PD still remains locked - right ???
This is not clear for retaining a priority date when I-140 is revoked. As per a US CIS memorandum, when I-140 is revoked for misrepresentation or fraud, person won't be able to carry the PD over. On the other hand, there are regulations that state that beneficiary would no longer be able to carry over the priority date in the event of I-140 being revoked.
Please note that the memorandum does not have the force of law.
____________________
Not a legal advice.
US Citizen of Indian Origin
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webm
05-22 09:12 AM
Processing times are based on Received date or Notice Date?
Its a mixed talk..i believe its based on RD
Its a mixed talk..i believe its based on RD
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black_logs
05-11 03:17 PM
bkarnik,
You mentioned this in your message 'if the SKIL bill provisions are also included as amendments' , where did you get this ? are you making a guess ? If it gets included then nothing like it. DOL backlog gets cleared in 6 months. Return of Visa revalidation. Begin of I-140 premium processing etc. etc. Skill bill is too good.
Friends...please...the CIR is still better than the present situation we are in. It increases the H1B numbers, it increases the amount of GCs availbale per year, it excludes dependents from the quota, it excludes STEM advanced degrees (currently employed as well as future students) from the quota, it does require the illegals to wait at least 6 years before they can file papers for their GCs and then thay get to be at the back of the line, additionally, if the SKIL bill provisions are also included as amendments, it will also provide a premium processing facility for I485. The SKIL bill also mandates the DOL to clear all backlog within 6 months. The thinking is that by the time the undocumented aliens (somehow, I do not like the word illegal) enter the pipeline, the current backlog will be cleared and all dates will be current.
Given, the uncertainity in the process right now, I still feel that CIR is the way to go. Also, if it were not for the issue of the undocumented aliens, there would have been no incentive or push to do anything about the system and we would be stuck with this system. As far as the USCIS efficiency is concerned, I would not underestimate them either, the USCIS is known to be very efficient when it needs to (prime example the spectacularly efficient and successful H1 B premium processing system) so keep the faith and help yourselves achieve your dreams :)
You mentioned this in your message 'if the SKIL bill provisions are also included as amendments' , where did you get this ? are you making a guess ? If it gets included then nothing like it. DOL backlog gets cleared in 6 months. Return of Visa revalidation. Begin of I-140 premium processing etc. etc. Skill bill is too good.
Friends...please...the CIR is still better than the present situation we are in. It increases the H1B numbers, it increases the amount of GCs availbale per year, it excludes dependents from the quota, it excludes STEM advanced degrees (currently employed as well as future students) from the quota, it does require the illegals to wait at least 6 years before they can file papers for their GCs and then thay get to be at the back of the line, additionally, if the SKIL bill provisions are also included as amendments, it will also provide a premium processing facility for I485. The SKIL bill also mandates the DOL to clear all backlog within 6 months. The thinking is that by the time the undocumented aliens (somehow, I do not like the word illegal) enter the pipeline, the current backlog will be cleared and all dates will be current.
Given, the uncertainity in the process right now, I still feel that CIR is the way to go. Also, if it were not for the issue of the undocumented aliens, there would have been no incentive or push to do anything about the system and we would be stuck with this system. As far as the USCIS efficiency is concerned, I would not underestimate them either, the USCIS is known to be very efficient when it needs to (prime example the spectacularly efficient and successful H1 B premium processing system) so keep the faith and help yourselves achieve your dreams :)
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ajay
07-17 09:33 AM
I sent to 3 members from Fl and 3 members from VA. I was residing in Fl and I had to move to VA due to job relocation.
Hope this helps to get some help.
:)
Hope this helps to get some help.
:)
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sdrblr
08-24 03:39 PM
Hi all,
my priority date is jan 2003.first ours was at TSC and then it was transferred to VSc and now it was transferred to TSC.
Wow !!! did you check with an Infopass?
my priority date is jan 2003.first ours was at TSC and then it was transferred to VSc and now it was transferred to TSC.
Wow !!! did you check with an Infopass?
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dudes2006
02-10 06:54 PM
Project_A - Were you ablle to file Eb2 and got approval after doing online MS ? How does USCIS treat online MS compared to full time MS for approving under eb2 ?
I also have 3 year degree + 1 year PG+ 20 years progressive experience. How can I file under eb2 ? I heard that USCIS looks for 4 year degree for approval under eb2.
I also have 3 year degree + 1 year PG+ 20 years progressive experience. How can I file under eb2 ? I heard that USCIS looks for 4 year degree for approval under eb2.
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nixstor
07-04 03:25 PM
To reflect the discussion.
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diptam
02-02 02:02 PM
1) I downloaded the form G-639 from USCIS website just now , after briefly going thru it seems like just I-140 approval copy should not go above $25 , may be less. However much complicated requests will add higher costs.
2) No, employer will not get to know. I dont think they sends anything like that to employer. After all you are the beneficiary of the I-140 petition. Its not that you are getting "Tax Returns for Company" by using 3rd party tools.
Rather moving forward USCIS should make it a rule that I-140 should be shared with the beneficiary as well. I-140 is meant ONLY and ONLY for you.
Hi Diptam and others, few questions about FOIA,
1) My employer does not want to share the original I-140 either, so i too want to apply via FOIA, do you know what is the cost of applying ?
2) If we apply, will the employer get to know ? does uscis send some notification to the employer that the employee requested a copy of I-140 approval notice?
Thanks, has anyone successfully got it back ?
2) No, employer will not get to know. I dont think they sends anything like that to employer. After all you are the beneficiary of the I-140 petition. Its not that you are getting "Tax Returns for Company" by using 3rd party tools.
Rather moving forward USCIS should make it a rule that I-140 should be shared with the beneficiary as well. I-140 is meant ONLY and ONLY for you.
Hi Diptam and others, few questions about FOIA,
1) My employer does not want to share the original I-140 either, so i too want to apply via FOIA, do you know what is the cost of applying ?
2) If we apply, will the employer get to know ? does uscis send some notification to the employer that the employee requested a copy of I-140 approval notice?
Thanks, has anyone successfully got it back ?
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mrsahaayam
03-17 08:04 PM
Call yourself a shoplifter, but you are really a petty criminal. You have yourself proved so by pleading guilty.
I am surprised that you have not been deported. It people like you who bring a bad name to the whole Indian immigrant community.
Far as I am concerned, unless you hae situation of life and death, you must not steal. The only other scenario, where theft could be pardoned is if you are out of work, have no money, have no friends who would help you, have been turned out by the local soup kitchen and the food bank, and have starving children at home and you decide to pich a loaf of brad from a store
Other than that, no excuse.
For all who replied well to my thread.. Thanks a million. to whom, trying to blame me etc.. If you want to reply with good answer you are welcome to do so...else DON'T EVEN REPLY.
Now another question to you guys who are blaming me......
Did not you guys ever used office stuff/taking printouts of ur personal use/ using ofice phone for personal use etc in your life? If you have done so.. YOU ARE ALSO THIEVES. YOU did not get caught, thats the basic difference...
Thanks guys
Have fun!!!
I am surprised that you have not been deported. It people like you who bring a bad name to the whole Indian immigrant community.
Far as I am concerned, unless you hae situation of life and death, you must not steal. The only other scenario, where theft could be pardoned is if you are out of work, have no money, have no friends who would help you, have been turned out by the local soup kitchen and the food bank, and have starving children at home and you decide to pich a loaf of brad from a store
Other than that, no excuse.
For all who replied well to my thread.. Thanks a million. to whom, trying to blame me etc.. If you want to reply with good answer you are welcome to do so...else DON'T EVEN REPLY.
Now another question to you guys who are blaming me......
Did not you guys ever used office stuff/taking printouts of ur personal use/ using ofice phone for personal use etc in your life? If you have done so.. YOU ARE ALSO THIEVES. YOU did not get caught, thats the basic difference...
Thanks guys
Have fun!!!
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abhijitp
03-11 03:57 PM
Sure, your point is very much valid. What I understand from the Freakenomics experiment and EB3I behavior with respect to IV is that only a few folks have the perseverance to go all the way from D to B.
Take 100 folks with C grade and give them the $50 offer for B. May be 80% will reach that goal. (I do not recall the actual results of the experiment).
Take 100 folks with D grade and give them the $50 offer for B. Ideally we should see 80% of folks improving their grade to a C (one level up). But in real life only may be half as much (40%) will actually improve their grades to a C.
An important difference here is, no matter how many participate in this campaign in DC, we all move up a grade at some point.
We will all move a few years sooner if we try, and years later if nobody tries anything. (But we will still move!)
Folks just need to decide: what's more preferable? Slower of faster?
Take 100 folks with C grade and give them the $50 offer for B. May be 80% will reach that goal. (I do not recall the actual results of the experiment).
Take 100 folks with D grade and give them the $50 offer for B. Ideally we should see 80% of folks improving their grade to a C (one level up). But in real life only may be half as much (40%) will actually improve their grades to a C.
An important difference here is, no matter how many participate in this campaign in DC, we all move up a grade at some point.
We will all move a few years sooner if we try, and years later if nobody tries anything. (But we will still move!)
Folks just need to decide: what's more preferable? Slower of faster?
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ashokred
08-04 07:42 PM
Justaju jiski thi, usko to na paya humne..
Is bahane magar dekh li duniya humne.
what a timeless masterpiece!!!
gives me goosebumps everytime i listen to this!!!
Is bahane magar dekh li duniya humne.
what a timeless masterpiece!!!
gives me goosebumps everytime i listen to this!!!
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Chris Rock
01-22 01:38 AM
I sent to PM to some of you.
Thanks
-Rock
Thanks
-Rock
funny
09-22 01:59 PM
Folks,
Lets start posting the messages "I Called.." (of course you have to call first..:D)
Lets start posting the messages "I Called.." (of course you have to call first..:D)
485_se_dukhi
09-22 07:44 PM
In trying to play the "devil's advocate", you still did not answer my question. i.e. "Let me ask you a simple question. What CAN be the "perceived benefit" from a rally like this that would make you think that it would be worth attending? Is it something like a guarantee for a GC in 2 months or a bill that passes next month that does everything we legals want? What is it?"
i already have my GC but i share the pain and frustration of folks who do not..if a 7 month wait process for me was frustrating - i can understand what a 7 year process would be to others like me...
With all due respect, I do not think you have a clue as to what a 7 year wait can be like. Having received your GC in 7 months, now I understand where all this critiquing is coming from (without offering any solution of course).
People have been quoting Gandhi and his South Africa protests.........those were different times and different issues.........
I'm still trying to understand your point...you do not want us to quote Gandhi, MLK or any others that could inspire and motivate us. You do not think a big rally will help. You do not think meeting lawmakers will help. As Walking_dude remarked before, so WHAT do YOU suggest we do?
unless there are drastic and dramatic measures - concrete changes are not possible........small procedural victories - maybe........drastic change.....no way!
Can you give a few examples of these "drastic and dramatic measures" that will give us "concrete changes"? I'm sure we are all ears and will be willing to employ these.
You have such an active and analytical mind. Why not use it for something constructive like suggesting actual concrete steps that IV can take.
if the american govt is non-responsive to the demand from 60% of its own citizens to withdraw from Iraq - how can we realistically expect it to react with super haste to our requests..
Your point being....? That we should not request or discuss our issues with law makers? Or because of the Iraq war quagmire, Congress will not take any other decision or pass any other bill until that is resolved??
Lastly, you mentioned about your pet peeve
america's competitiveness and risk of reverse brain drain........personally - i think most people dont care two hoots about these issues - these messages and slogans are not out of a new found love for america but to create a nice "politically correct shield" for people's own private agendas (and the collective agenda of all of us) - to get a GC.
My first reaction. You're kidding, right! Ever worked in marketing/sales?? When you go to sell your product or service, you try to sell it from the point of view of the customer. In this case, what the benefit can be from the point of view of the US govt and US economy. Yes, our primary aim is to get our GC's in a reasonable time frame. The slogans and messages are in support of these ( By the way both happen to be true).
Incidentally, even the spark in Gandhi was ignited when he personally was insulted and thrown from a train. My point being that it is only when we personally are affected by an issue that we react to it. The reaction ofcourse differs based on our own individual character, personality and other traits.
appreciate your comments - but as i said in my post clearly that I accept the probability that my views are wrong.....
""on the other hand if one day it so transpires that this rally was the historic starting point of major immigration reforms triggered by a group of pioneering individuals - i would have no choice but to eat my words and hang my head in shame that i did not attend.............""
But look at it this way......i already have my GC but i share the pain and frustration of folks who do not..if a 7 month wait process for me was frustrating - i can understand what a 7 year process would be to others like me....if people who are waiting saw the utility of the rally....there would have been more than 2,000 in DC.........but clearly they did not.......i was willing to give it a shot - but unfortunately could not and did not want to specifically postpone something else to make it to DC.......
People have been quoting Gandhi and his South Africa protests.........those were different times and different issues.........colonialism, racial discrimination etc.......if the american govt is non-responsive to the demand from 60% of its own citizens to withdraw from Iraq - how can we realistically expect it to react with super haste to our requests....besides gandhi had the courage to stand up to police brutality, get arrested etc.....in today's days and age - as white collared professionals - do we have the guts and will to do that? For example - we cannot even strike (non cooperation/ civil disobedience movement)....because we get paid by our respective private sector employers.....and our grudge is against the Govt - who do we strike against......?? and if we do strike or court arrest or adopt other forms of civil protest and by chance run up a police record in the process.......who would employ us in the future...in Gandhi's days - they did not have electronic background checks......!!
Another take - if US can have an endless source of temporary workers coming in, paying into income tax and social security taxes and medicare taxes for a few years......and going back without claiming a single dime of social benefits......its the best possible situation for US....a forever young, qualified, minimum wages (i.e prevailing wages) earning tax paying transient population supporting/ subsidizing an archaic and otherwise struggling social security and healthcare system.
another point people have been harping on (apologies for bringing this up but this is my only pet peeve amongst all the other wise great things that happen on this forum).......america's competitiveness and risk of reverse brain drain........personally - i think most people dont care two hoots about these issues - these messages and slogans are not out of a new found love for america but to create a nice "politically correct shield" for people's own private agendas (and the collective agenda of all of us) - to get a GC. Are we here to improve america's competitiveness (if that was the primary purpose of our coming here - shame on us for not staying back and improving our respective motherlands' competitiveness) or our own future - if the latter - lets call a spade a spade.........
so - whats the "so what" from my post? is it to critique what IV is doing - no! The "so what" is - unless there are drastic and dramatic measures - concrete changes are not possible........small procedural victories - maybe........drastic change.....no way!
just to take the "popular" Gandhian analogy a step further......There was Home Rule League and Congress in existence in India for a long time.....their objective was to petition the British Govt for small changes........and their ultimate goal was to get dominion status for india......only when Gandhi came on board plus supporters of other proactive forms of protest.....like Subhash Bose.....Tilak etc and the armed freedom struggle started (Bhagat Singh, Azad et al)......did Congress wake up and ask for "purna swaraj" (complete independence).......so from 1885 (founding of congress) to 1930 (Lahore Session of Congress when purna swaraj declaration was made) - nothing happened......british empire went from strength to strength.......then in 17 years - India got independence.......
pl think about what i wrote objectively......and dont jump on me just because i am playing devil's advocate
i already have my GC but i share the pain and frustration of folks who do not..if a 7 month wait process for me was frustrating - i can understand what a 7 year process would be to others like me...
With all due respect, I do not think you have a clue as to what a 7 year wait can be like. Having received your GC in 7 months, now I understand where all this critiquing is coming from (without offering any solution of course).
People have been quoting Gandhi and his South Africa protests.........those were different times and different issues.........
I'm still trying to understand your point...you do not want us to quote Gandhi, MLK or any others that could inspire and motivate us. You do not think a big rally will help. You do not think meeting lawmakers will help. As Walking_dude remarked before, so WHAT do YOU suggest we do?
unless there are drastic and dramatic measures - concrete changes are not possible........small procedural victories - maybe........drastic change.....no way!
Can you give a few examples of these "drastic and dramatic measures" that will give us "concrete changes"? I'm sure we are all ears and will be willing to employ these.
You have such an active and analytical mind. Why not use it for something constructive like suggesting actual concrete steps that IV can take.
if the american govt is non-responsive to the demand from 60% of its own citizens to withdraw from Iraq - how can we realistically expect it to react with super haste to our requests..
Your point being....? That we should not request or discuss our issues with law makers? Or because of the Iraq war quagmire, Congress will not take any other decision or pass any other bill until that is resolved??
Lastly, you mentioned about your pet peeve
america's competitiveness and risk of reverse brain drain........personally - i think most people dont care two hoots about these issues - these messages and slogans are not out of a new found love for america but to create a nice "politically correct shield" for people's own private agendas (and the collective agenda of all of us) - to get a GC.
My first reaction. You're kidding, right! Ever worked in marketing/sales?? When you go to sell your product or service, you try to sell it from the point of view of the customer. In this case, what the benefit can be from the point of view of the US govt and US economy. Yes, our primary aim is to get our GC's in a reasonable time frame. The slogans and messages are in support of these ( By the way both happen to be true).
Incidentally, even the spark in Gandhi was ignited when he personally was insulted and thrown from a train. My point being that it is only when we personally are affected by an issue that we react to it. The reaction ofcourse differs based on our own individual character, personality and other traits.
appreciate your comments - but as i said in my post clearly that I accept the probability that my views are wrong.....
""on the other hand if one day it so transpires that this rally was the historic starting point of major immigration reforms triggered by a group of pioneering individuals - i would have no choice but to eat my words and hang my head in shame that i did not attend.............""
But look at it this way......i already have my GC but i share the pain and frustration of folks who do not..if a 7 month wait process for me was frustrating - i can understand what a 7 year process would be to others like me....if people who are waiting saw the utility of the rally....there would have been more than 2,000 in DC.........but clearly they did not.......i was willing to give it a shot - but unfortunately could not and did not want to specifically postpone something else to make it to DC.......
People have been quoting Gandhi and his South Africa protests.........those were different times and different issues.........colonialism, racial discrimination etc.......if the american govt is non-responsive to the demand from 60% of its own citizens to withdraw from Iraq - how can we realistically expect it to react with super haste to our requests....besides gandhi had the courage to stand up to police brutality, get arrested etc.....in today's days and age - as white collared professionals - do we have the guts and will to do that? For example - we cannot even strike (non cooperation/ civil disobedience movement)....because we get paid by our respective private sector employers.....and our grudge is against the Govt - who do we strike against......?? and if we do strike or court arrest or adopt other forms of civil protest and by chance run up a police record in the process.......who would employ us in the future...in Gandhi's days - they did not have electronic background checks......!!
Another take - if US can have an endless source of temporary workers coming in, paying into income tax and social security taxes and medicare taxes for a few years......and going back without claiming a single dime of social benefits......its the best possible situation for US....a forever young, qualified, minimum wages (i.e prevailing wages) earning tax paying transient population supporting/ subsidizing an archaic and otherwise struggling social security and healthcare system.
another point people have been harping on (apologies for bringing this up but this is my only pet peeve amongst all the other wise great things that happen on this forum).......america's competitiveness and risk of reverse brain drain........personally - i think most people dont care two hoots about these issues - these messages and slogans are not out of a new found love for america but to create a nice "politically correct shield" for people's own private agendas (and the collective agenda of all of us) - to get a GC. Are we here to improve america's competitiveness (if that was the primary purpose of our coming here - shame on us for not staying back and improving our respective motherlands' competitiveness) or our own future - if the latter - lets call a spade a spade.........
so - whats the "so what" from my post? is it to critique what IV is doing - no! The "so what" is - unless there are drastic and dramatic measures - concrete changes are not possible........small procedural victories - maybe........drastic change.....no way!
just to take the "popular" Gandhian analogy a step further......There was Home Rule League and Congress in existence in India for a long time.....their objective was to petition the British Govt for small changes........and their ultimate goal was to get dominion status for india......only when Gandhi came on board plus supporters of other proactive forms of protest.....like Subhash Bose.....Tilak etc and the armed freedom struggle started (Bhagat Singh, Azad et al)......did Congress wake up and ask for "purna swaraj" (complete independence).......so from 1885 (founding of congress) to 1930 (Lahore Session of Congress when purna swaraj declaration was made) - nothing happened......british empire went from strength to strength.......then in 17 years - India got independence.......
pl think about what i wrote objectively......and dont jump on me just because i am playing devil's advocate
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