kavita
07-02 11:11 AM
who would be a good lawyer to consult regarding this?
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LostInGCProcess
01-15 02:34 PM
Dude, with all due respect, I am serious about all the precautionary measures I told. In fact it was one of my American colleague who sent out a similar list some time ago( I believe a year ago, when a similar incident happened to one lady at a parking lot), to all the team members.
It was claimed based on some statistics, if a person who hijacks a car, more often (about 90%) the perpetrator kills the driver. Its a fact.
Its not paranoia, its something if you keep in mind, then there is very good chance to come out alive form that dreadful predicament. God forbid, it could happen to anybody.
[QUOTE]Most of these incidents are straight forward. The bag guy asks for money, the good guy refuses or tries to put up a fight and gets shot. When you’re faced with a mugger/carjacker, always comply with their demands and leave quickly. That’s it.
Really??!!! I totally disagree with you on this. I have seen in Detroit, where poor Indians got killed "execution" style, in a dunkin donut store, they didn't put up a fight or refused. They could barely speak proper english. They were all bound, face down, and shot in the head. Now don't tell me its an isolated incident and it would not happen again...time and time again these things happen. So, if you think if we dont resist and head to all the demands of the robbers, they would let you go, then you are wrong, my friend. You got 50-50 chance they would let you go.
I agree, we need to be cautious of the surroundings. But no to the paranoid level of checking out every hiding place or hitting a wall/pillar
There is no paranoia here...just a mild glance in the back window is a good practice before getting in once car.
And your assertion that only psycho's kill, is wrong. Common robbers too kill people after robbing.
It was claimed based on some statistics, if a person who hijacks a car, more often (about 90%) the perpetrator kills the driver. Its a fact.
Its not paranoia, its something if you keep in mind, then there is very good chance to come out alive form that dreadful predicament. God forbid, it could happen to anybody.
[QUOTE]Most of these incidents are straight forward. The bag guy asks for money, the good guy refuses or tries to put up a fight and gets shot. When you’re faced with a mugger/carjacker, always comply with their demands and leave quickly. That’s it.
Really??!!! I totally disagree with you on this. I have seen in Detroit, where poor Indians got killed "execution" style, in a dunkin donut store, they didn't put up a fight or refused. They could barely speak proper english. They were all bound, face down, and shot in the head. Now don't tell me its an isolated incident and it would not happen again...time and time again these things happen. So, if you think if we dont resist and head to all the demands of the robbers, they would let you go, then you are wrong, my friend. You got 50-50 chance they would let you go.
I agree, we need to be cautious of the surroundings. But no to the paranoid level of checking out every hiding place or hitting a wall/pillar
There is no paranoia here...just a mild glance in the back window is a good practice before getting in once car.
And your assertion that only psycho's kill, is wrong. Common robbers too kill people after robbing.
knnmbd
04-03 11:05 AM
Admin,
Thanks for clarifying the issue about contacting AILA and similar organizations
Thanks for clarifying the issue about contacting AILA and similar organizations
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sands_14
11-09 10:40 AM
Joe Lieberman supports a lot of policies of Bush.I am not sure about the immigration policy.
I heard something about chapters.Whats going on?
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n_2006
11-15 12:10 PM
Time of signing the contract also is very important. If you signed the contract after H1 transfer or joining the assignment will not have much impact. Because you signed that contract under pressure or without any option. Also any unpaid time (bench) is plus point for you. You can extract that money from them easily after leaving the company. Recently there was such case in NJ.
I think before joining any of these companies, as an employee we should ask these questions with out any hesitation. Before joining, these employers will talk very friendly. That point we can not ask below questions because employer looks like a friend.
1) Conditions leaving the company.
We should also agree for reasonable conditions. I think 6 months is reasonable. By that time they make their expenses.
We should make it very clear that we are not going to stay with the company as bonded labor.
2) GC Process. Attorney. Documentation.
We should be very clear on what happens if you leave the company before getting GC.
Will you get the paper work (Labor, I 140 copies) as soon they are approved?
Transparency. Control over the process
Can you have your own lawyer?
3) Joining the client where you are working?
most of us finding projects/clients on our own. There is nothing employer is doing to find these clients. What are the terms. In these difficult situations clients may not be ready to pay head hunting fee to middle company and your employer.
4) Payment.
When and how will we get paid?
Even I did not ask these questions before joining. But moving forward I would like to ask these questions.
Hello Guys,
I need your advice here. Six month ago i joined one of the many blood suckers -Desi cosulting company in new jersey. As you all know, they ask me to sign their contract in which its mention that if i leave their company before 1 year then i need to pay them 15k. Thy also charge me 3k for my H1-B which i am still paying everymonth from my paycheck and we have 70/30. In just six months i am so much fed up with them. These people are so rude...always show their arrogance over phone. I have no libarity to find job by myself. They always looking for higher pay rate sp that their big money tummy get filled up.and i also feel that they didnt told me the right pay rate for the project i am working on right now.
I really want to leave them, Even before 12 months. Is there any importance of that contract letter i signed with them?. Can they Sue me? What are my options? Please suggest me.....i am in stress.
Thnx
I think before joining any of these companies, as an employee we should ask these questions with out any hesitation. Before joining, these employers will talk very friendly. That point we can not ask below questions because employer looks like a friend.
1) Conditions leaving the company.
We should also agree for reasonable conditions. I think 6 months is reasonable. By that time they make their expenses.
We should make it very clear that we are not going to stay with the company as bonded labor.
2) GC Process. Attorney. Documentation.
We should be very clear on what happens if you leave the company before getting GC.
Will you get the paper work (Labor, I 140 copies) as soon they are approved?
Transparency. Control over the process
Can you have your own lawyer?
3) Joining the client where you are working?
most of us finding projects/clients on our own. There is nothing employer is doing to find these clients. What are the terms. In these difficult situations clients may not be ready to pay head hunting fee to middle company and your employer.
4) Payment.
When and how will we get paid?
Even I did not ask these questions before joining. But moving forward I would like to ask these questions.
Hello Guys,
I need your advice here. Six month ago i joined one of the many blood suckers -Desi cosulting company in new jersey. As you all know, they ask me to sign their contract in which its mention that if i leave their company before 1 year then i need to pay them 15k. Thy also charge me 3k for my H1-B which i am still paying everymonth from my paycheck and we have 70/30. In just six months i am so much fed up with them. These people are so rude...always show their arrogance over phone. I have no libarity to find job by myself. They always looking for higher pay rate sp that their big money tummy get filled up.and i also feel that they didnt told me the right pay rate for the project i am working on right now.
I really want to leave them, Even before 12 months. Is there any importance of that contract letter i signed with them?. Can they Sue me? What are my options? Please suggest me.....i am in stress.
Thnx
nashorn
12-17 11:47 AM
I have sold some items in eBay in the past, If I rememver correctly, when I sold something for $10 and the buyer made a paypal payment, paypal too $1.5 as fees.
So if you are making $20, only $17 goes to IV, IF the amount is >=50 I believe the fees is much lesser (like 5%) so more money goes to IV instead of making paypal rich.
How about check? 100% goes to IV.
So if you are making $20, only $17 goes to IV, IF the amount is >=50 I believe the fees is much lesser (like 5%) so more money goes to IV instead of making paypal rich.
How about check? 100% goes to IV.
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mrsahaayam
03-15 09:54 PM
Guys, Already suffering that pain. Please enough of the beating...
I have requested for your valuable advise. But if you ask me why?No reason.... Why do we have many criminals? Why? Why? why? I believe every one is not perfect in any sense, some get caught, some not....
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I have requested for your valuable advise. But if you ask me why?No reason.... Why do we have many criminals? Why? Why? why? I believe every one is not perfect in any sense, some get caught, some not....
Thanks pal
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kumarc123
06-12 12:59 PM
Outlook is very very grim without a bill from what I understand. EB3 India is going to be in a hole and EB3 PDs that are 2006 and later have a really long wait time ahead that they are not imagining. We are all hopeful by nature and look forward to visa bulletins with a positive attitude but such PD folks may be disappointed month after month for several years. For EB2 India it is important to know number of ported cases. EB3ROW folks also need to worry now. Their journey may not be that smooth due to spillover rules and high demand. We need to get data via FOIA to make a better guesstimate. Without such data we will hear various theories, predictions and interpretations from various websites and blogs that may not be always true.
Pappu,
I appreciate your input, but IV members have been talking about numbers and numbers and numbers for last 2 years in a row.
What will the numbers reveal? I had been a regular blogger at IV, but I stopped coming up here because.
1. All talk and no Walk
2. New members come aboard, are rude and offer no pragmatic approach.
3. All these bloggers give ideas and critique each other.
4. What happened to the March1 09st rally in DC?
Why has IV not taken a pragmatic approach, don't take me wrong I respect what you have done and other approaches in the past. But IV is using same approach for a new problem, the end result-----Failure
I joined this community after july fiasco, and have kept close watch on dates, everyday members keep suggesting something or the other. I don't mind being a donor to IV or contributing little what I have, But I need to see some big movement and results.
I did all the stupid calling to congress senators
Did sending of letters to the White house
what was the result? If IV wants core members and new members to donate and be a part of something bigger than a website, then please initiate something big like a rally.
Just because their are less members to join, does not excuse a true purpose of a rally.
Some of core members of IV keep telling other members:
1. Join your local chapter
2. Be a donor,
I understand all this, but I as a visiting members and the people coming on here, want to see a true and real reason to be a part of IV and not just a website where immigrants come and breathe out their frusturations July Fiasco turned to be advantageous to a few members, but was a mistake for members like me and other members who could not file at that time.
Please prove me wrong and IV to be something more than a website, please initiate something big and real, and not just comments. I an aware of the achievements in the past, but it was past 3 years ago. For last three years immigrant's feelings have been played around too many times. Same old talks will not bring upon a change, SOMETHING BIG NEEDS TO BE DONE NOW BEFORE THE CIR BILL takes place. So people are more aware.
Show us IV core is more than words! Conduct something bigger that will attract new members and donors to this organization.
I as a professional can tell you all now--- passive movement, sending letters, long term planning with no actions will not help
People have left IV, who are so disheartened and believe this organization has lost its eedge and is all talk and no walk above all a money scam.
Prove them wrong and do something big,
Pappu,
I appreciate your input, but IV members have been talking about numbers and numbers and numbers for last 2 years in a row.
What will the numbers reveal? I had been a regular blogger at IV, but I stopped coming up here because.
1. All talk and no Walk
2. New members come aboard, are rude and offer no pragmatic approach.
3. All these bloggers give ideas and critique each other.
4. What happened to the March1 09st rally in DC?
Why has IV not taken a pragmatic approach, don't take me wrong I respect what you have done and other approaches in the past. But IV is using same approach for a new problem, the end result-----Failure
I joined this community after july fiasco, and have kept close watch on dates, everyday members keep suggesting something or the other. I don't mind being a donor to IV or contributing little what I have, But I need to see some big movement and results.
I did all the stupid calling to congress senators
Did sending of letters to the White house
what was the result? If IV wants core members and new members to donate and be a part of something bigger than a website, then please initiate something big like a rally.
Just because their are less members to join, does not excuse a true purpose of a rally.
Some of core members of IV keep telling other members:
1. Join your local chapter
2. Be a donor,
I understand all this, but I as a visiting members and the people coming on here, want to see a true and real reason to be a part of IV and not just a website where immigrants come and breathe out their frusturations July Fiasco turned to be advantageous to a few members, but was a mistake for members like me and other members who could not file at that time.
Please prove me wrong and IV to be something more than a website, please initiate something big and real, and not just comments. I an aware of the achievements in the past, but it was past 3 years ago. For last three years immigrant's feelings have been played around too many times. Same old talks will not bring upon a change, SOMETHING BIG NEEDS TO BE DONE NOW BEFORE THE CIR BILL takes place. So people are more aware.
Show us IV core is more than words! Conduct something bigger that will attract new members and donors to this organization.
I as a professional can tell you all now--- passive movement, sending letters, long term planning with no actions will not help
People have left IV, who are so disheartened and believe this organization has lost its eedge and is all talk and no walk above all a money scam.
Prove them wrong and do something big,
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gcseeker2002
12-10 04:53 PM
Is the use of EAD possible from 180 days after Receipt date or notice date ? I just crossed the 160 day mark, but I still dont have EAD. Can I use the requirement to use EAD(like a pending job offer) as a reason for Emergency to expedite my EAD, the uscis folks want some real reason to expedite the EAD application.
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ganguteli
03-17 03:20 PM
Just saw that this dude is banned. Its good. He created a fake profile recently to divide us.
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jack_suv
07-19 03:59 PM
My question is
what are the ramifications if
1. I apply for i-485 now.
2. get married and bring spouse on h4 and she remains on h4
and my I485 is approved before the PD is current so spouse is out of status for a short while before she can apply for AOS?
my case is EB2; PD is july 2006.
what are the ramifications if
1. I apply for i-485 now.
2. get married and bring spouse on h4 and she remains on h4
and my I485 is approved before the PD is current so spouse is out of status for a short while before she can apply for AOS?
my case is EB2; PD is july 2006.
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04-07 05:26 PM
Yeah.. thats good...
Just another proof.... we guys never give up... :D
It does not matter if its 2moro or the day after or next week...
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Just another proof.... we guys never give up... :D
It does not matter if its 2moro or the day after or next week...
Kuch milega kya??
BR
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kumaabh
10-23 11:50 PM
His 485 was approved because he is from bangladesh.
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floridasun
01-01 06:21 PM
Thanks Almond... your post summarizes exactly how ppl in my position feel. one of my frds did MBA from top 20 B-school but could not change to a new job in management career becoz his I-140 approved but did not file for I-485 yet and worse yet he crossed 6 year H1b. now he is also living on 3 year h-1b extensions with approved I-140. when he was venting his frustration like me, one a$$hole (GC holder) suggested he move back to his home country. funny thing was this a$$hole got her GC becoz she married some bakra who already applied for GC. within 6 months after she arrived in US, her huby got them GCs. This dumb wothless piece of $hit doesnt know how hard (impossible ?) to get GC in this lifetime becoz she got it in 6 months :mad: .
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chi_shark
10-03 10:50 AM
actually, lets make another category 3.c. people who have shifted jobs after ead using AC21 and now want to or already have started a company for side business (that may be in the labor/perm cert job description or outside)...
So, I am 3.c. and so is perhaps matreen... after digesting my conversation with the lawyer for two three days now, i am feeling that it might be worth taking the risk of doing a side business. after all, we are not doing anything that is uncivil or criminal... just trying to boost our incomes and perhaps contribute to an industry or something like that... that noble intention could be viewed as an exclusive intention in relation to the intention to continue permanent employment with the new GC sponsoring employer... what do you guys think?
If you are on 3a, you have neither used AC21 nor have you left your full time job (FT job that aligns with your LC). On EAD, you can do any number of jobs (ex: you can even work 2 part time jobs totally unrelated to your LC requirements ofcourse as long as you continue to be with your GC employer). Using this rationale, you should be fine starting a business and making profit in the part time.
In fact even those who were in 3 b were able to get their GC after an interview (Search for posts by the user "unitednations"). But, it's risky and best avoided.
Personally, I want to get into 3 a, but my 140 is still pending. I plan to approach my company to switch me to EAD as soon as my 140 gets approved.
PS: This is not legal advice. Please contact your attorney and do more research before taking any steps further.
So, I am 3.c. and so is perhaps matreen... after digesting my conversation with the lawyer for two three days now, i am feeling that it might be worth taking the risk of doing a side business. after all, we are not doing anything that is uncivil or criminal... just trying to boost our incomes and perhaps contribute to an industry or something like that... that noble intention could be viewed as an exclusive intention in relation to the intention to continue permanent employment with the new GC sponsoring employer... what do you guys think?
If you are on 3a, you have neither used AC21 nor have you left your full time job (FT job that aligns with your LC). On EAD, you can do any number of jobs (ex: you can even work 2 part time jobs totally unrelated to your LC requirements ofcourse as long as you continue to be with your GC employer). Using this rationale, you should be fine starting a business and making profit in the part time.
In fact even those who were in 3 b were able to get their GC after an interview (Search for posts by the user "unitednations"). But, it's risky and best avoided.
Personally, I want to get into 3 a, but my 140 is still pending. I plan to approach my company to switch me to EAD as soon as my 140 gets approved.
PS: This is not legal advice. Please contact your attorney and do more research before taking any steps further.
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pappu
04-02 12:54 PM
So here come the thing. Thats why i asked in my original post is IV just for people who have applied for Green card ? I wanted to know if they could address these issues as well . Regarding inability to work and self esteem , just stay in home for few days and then feel how much you loose. Man , its 21st century and ability to work is basic right.
Please do not misinterpret IV.
If tomorrow there is a bill to stop all H1B from coming to USA or to make life difficult for H1B, do you really think we will keep quiet just because we have filed our greencards?
Do you know IV worked hard for decoupling of H4 time from H1 in 2006 and we thought nothing may happen and started to focus on next action item. Then few months later it was changed. That was the first small step.
I would appreciate if you ask your spouse if she/he can volunteer time for IV. You both can get more involved. Send us an email if you are interested. We are always interested in people who can volunteer more time than us (We do full time jobs too. A couple of us also are enrolled in a part time degree program). We are willing to have such an H4 be a leader in IV.
IV is a platform that will allow you voice your plight. But you will need to come forward and be willing to actively work on it with others. If the strategy is right, you are committed and have right intentions there is no reason why IV will not help.
Please do not misinterpret IV.
If tomorrow there is a bill to stop all H1B from coming to USA or to make life difficult for H1B, do you really think we will keep quiet just because we have filed our greencards?
Do you know IV worked hard for decoupling of H4 time from H1 in 2006 and we thought nothing may happen and started to focus on next action item. Then few months later it was changed. That was the first small step.
I would appreciate if you ask your spouse if she/he can volunteer time for IV. You both can get more involved. Send us an email if you are interested. We are always interested in people who can volunteer more time than us (We do full time jobs too. A couple of us also are enrolled in a part time degree program). We are willing to have such an H4 be a leader in IV.
IV is a platform that will allow you voice your plight. But you will need to come forward and be willing to actively work on it with others. If the strategy is right, you are committed and have right intentions there is no reason why IV will not help.
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Berkeleybee
04-26 04:19 PM
国会移民法进入关键阶段，大家行动起来,支持immigrationvoice.org！
文章来源: lanzhouer 于 2006-04-02 07:42:34
http://www.wenxuecity.com/images/wxc-logo.gif
============ translation (thanks to Google) ===========
Congressional immigration law entered a critical stage, we take action and support immigrationvoice.org!
The article sources : Lanzhouer In 2006-04-02 07:42:34
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LINK (http://web.wenxuecity.com/BBSView.php?SubID=immigration&MsgID=166941)
It would be so great if our Chinese members told us more about this portal, and any others where we could get the word out.
Thanks!
Berkeleybee
文章来源: lanzhouer 于 2006-04-02 07:42:34
http://www.wenxuecity.com/images/wxc-logo.gif
============ translation (thanks to Google) ===========
Congressional immigration law entered a critical stage, we take action and support immigrationvoice.org!
The article sources : Lanzhouer In 2006-04-02 07:42:34
===========================
LINK (http://web.wenxuecity.com/BBSView.php?SubID=immigration&MsgID=166941)
It would be so great if our Chinese members told us more about this portal, and any others where we could get the word out.
Thanks!
Berkeleybee
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vivid_bharti
07-02 10:22 AM
US does not discriminate on the basis of Race, Caste, Religion though their is no mention of country of birth. But discriminating Green Card quota on basis of somebody's birth may be unconstitutional..If we appeal in the supreme court, the supreme court can ask the congress to ammend the laws...google and see there have been several instances in the history when Supreme Court told the congress to change a illegal law.
here's the google link of my searches
Google (http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=supreme+court+ask+congress+unconstitutional&aq=f&oq=can+you+sue+the+federal+congress+%3F&aqi=&aq=&oq=&aqi=&aq=&oq=supreme+court+ask+congress+unconstitutional&aqi=&fp=dMlfxuRvj0I)
also read this
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAsupreme.htm
here's the google link of my searches
Google (http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=supreme+court+ask+congress+unconstitutional&aq=f&oq=can+you+sue+the+federal+congress+%3F&aqi=&aq=&oq=&aqi=&aq=&oq=supreme+court+ask+congress+unconstitutional&aqi=&fp=dMlfxuRvj0I)
also read this
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAsupreme.htm
jsb
08-04 08:53 AM
I don't understand why people take offensive about expressing thoughts that has no bearing/ insulting towards anybody. I think using his/her language gives a person a powerful tool to express the emotion in a positive way. I think it shouldn't matter, if the person doesn't have ill feeling towards anybody.
This forum is nothing but a virtual place where like minded people mingle and discuss their sorrows and excitement; if somebody uses some other language to express feeling shouldn't have negative bearing on anybody. Of course, brief explanation in English is certainly helpful.
So far IV has enough people in almost all languages who can point out the trash or curse words that alerts other members who in turn can coordinate with admins to weed out those members from community.
I think these folks are better than the members who use the wild characters to trash talk all the time.
In my experience, I have seen the poetic folks are strong motivators and most of the folks that write these beautiful stanzas are selfless workers towards the community.
In short, I think we should not veraciously criticize these gentle folks.. Be kind to them.
Sorry, if you didn't like my comment. I am of Indian origin, and recognized/enjoyed your poetry and thoughts well. We can surely talk to our peers in any language, but writing for general information exchange on a public forum in our language may lead to regional labelling of our forum, which we don't intend.
This forum is nothing but a virtual place where like minded people mingle and discuss their sorrows and excitement; if somebody uses some other language to express feeling shouldn't have negative bearing on anybody. Of course, brief explanation in English is certainly helpful.
So far IV has enough people in almost all languages who can point out the trash or curse words that alerts other members who in turn can coordinate with admins to weed out those members from community.
I think these folks are better than the members who use the wild characters to trash talk all the time.
In my experience, I have seen the poetic folks are strong motivators and most of the folks that write these beautiful stanzas are selfless workers towards the community.
In short, I think we should not veraciously criticize these gentle folks.. Be kind to them.
Sorry, if you didn't like my comment. I am of Indian origin, and recognized/enjoyed your poetry and thoughts well. We can surely talk to our peers in any language, but writing for general information exchange on a public forum in our language may lead to regional labelling of our forum, which we don't intend.
LostInGCProcess
01-15 02:34 PM
Dude, with all due respect, I am serious about all the precautionary measures I told. In fact it was one of my American colleague who sent out a similar list some time ago( I believe a year ago, when a similar incident happened to one lady at a parking lot), to all the team members.
It was claimed based on some statistics, if a person who hijacks a car, more often (about 90%) the perpetrator kills the driver. Its a fact.
Its not paranoia, its something if you keep in mind, then there is very good chance to come out alive form that dreadful predicament. God forbid, it could happen to anybody.
[QUOTE]Most of these incidents are straight forward. The bag guy asks for money, the good guy refuses or tries to put up a fight and gets shot. When you’re faced with a mugger/carjacker, always comply with their demands and leave quickly. That’s it.
Really??!!! I totally disagree with you on this. I have seen in Detroit, where poor Indians got killed "execution" style, in a dunkin donut store, they didn't put up a fight or refused. They could barely speak proper english. They were all bound, face down, and shot in the head. Now don't tell me its an isolated incident and it would not happen again...time and time again these things happen. So, if you think if we dont resist and head to all the demands of the robbers, they would let you go, then you are wrong, my friend. You got 50-50 chance they would let you go.
I agree, we need to be cautious of the surroundings. But no to the paranoid level of checking out every hiding place or hitting a wall/pillar
There is no paranoia here...just a mild glance in the back window is a good practice before getting in once car.
And your assertion that only psycho's kill, is wrong. Common robbers too kill people after robbing.
It was claimed based on some statistics, if a person who hijacks a car, more often (about 90%) the perpetrator kills the driver. Its a fact.
Its not paranoia, its something if you keep in mind, then there is very good chance to come out alive form that dreadful predicament. God forbid, it could happen to anybody.
[QUOTE]Most of these incidents are straight forward. The bag guy asks for money, the good guy refuses or tries to put up a fight and gets shot. When you’re faced with a mugger/carjacker, always comply with their demands and leave quickly. That’s it.
Really??!!! I totally disagree with you on this. I have seen in Detroit, where poor Indians got killed "execution" style, in a dunkin donut store, they didn't put up a fight or refused. They could barely speak proper english. They were all bound, face down, and shot in the head. Now don't tell me its an isolated incident and it would not happen again...time and time again these things happen. So, if you think if we dont resist and head to all the demands of the robbers, they would let you go, then you are wrong, my friend. You got 50-50 chance they would let you go.
I agree, we need to be cautious of the surroundings. But no to the paranoid level of checking out every hiding place or hitting a wall/pillar
There is no paranoia here...just a mild glance in the back window is a good practice before getting in once car.
And your assertion that only psycho's kill, is wrong. Common robbers too kill people after robbing.
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